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Did Thatcher Use Soldiers During the Miners’ Strike?

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I was recently involved in a Twitter thread concerning the use of troops during the miners’ strike. It has long been rumoured that Thatcher sanctioned the use of the army and that squaddies were dressed in police uniforms and let loose on picket lines, to aid in crushing the strikers.

I think the first thing we ought to ask, when considering the question, is why such a tactic might have been favoured by the Tories and in asking the question we are immediately presented with some difficulty in providing a reasonable and plausible answer.

Firstly, we need to understand the role of the police during the dispute. As I wrote in my book on the strike…

The Metropolitan Police Force was hated with a passion throughout the County, earning a reputation for thuggery and violence that outstripped that of any other Force, against frequently stiff competition. Often behaving more like ‘Casuals’ football hooligans than upholders of the law, the Met regularly issued beatings to Nottinghamshire miners and would then affix little stickers to their victims bodies, which read, ‘I’ve met The Met.’ A quaint custom not reserved for just Nottinghamshire miners. Dave Douglass says, “We used to park our cars outside the villages we were picketing so as not to have them attacked by scabs. More than once we returned to wrecked cars and the stickers ‘I’ve met the Met’ stuck on them.”                                                                                                                     Why the Metropolitan Police were even in Nottinghamshire, in the first place, over a hundred miles from London, was one of the most contentious aspects of the dispute. The origins of their deployment in other Forces’ jurisdiction, like so much else in the Government’s handling of the dispute, lay in the Ridley Plan.                                                              The creation of the National Reporting Centre (NRC) was central to dealing with policing in the coalfields. Operating from a room on the thirteenth-floor of Scotland Yard, its purpose was revealed, by Douglas Hurd, to Parliament on 5th April 1984. “Arrangements for a national reporting centre were first made in 1972. Its main purposes were and are to help in the national co-ordination of aid between chief officers of police in England and Wales, under section 14 of the Police Act 1964, so that the best use is made of manpower and to provide the Home Secretary with information, in the same way as he receives reports from individual chief officers, to help him discharge his responsibilities for law and order.”
          This bland description, while accurate, was hardly the full story. In reality, the NRC became the management body of an effectively national police force, as the paramilitary wing of the Conservative Party. In seeking to combat picketing and deal with an industrial dispute in this way, rather than by simply applying civil law, the Police UK-wide, enthusiastically spearheaded by the Met, became a partisan body, forcibly imposing acts of political policy rather than simply upholding the law. Hurd continued, “Since 14 March this year, the centre has co-ordinated the responses to requests from chief officers for assistance from their colleagues in policing related to the miners’ dispute.”             

 Numbers of police, resources, intelligence, funds and equipment were all made available to the police without limits. It’s difficult to see why Thatcher would need to use the army to bolster the – at the time – forty-three separate constabularies which were coordinated as a national force.

Secondly there has been, to date, not a single verifiable and documented case of any member of the armed forces being deployed in such a fashion. I interviewed over a hundred participants in the strike for my book, covering every single area of involvement from striking and working miners, police officers, NCB personnel to journalists and politicians and of those who’d heard the rumour no one could state that they had first-hand proof of such an action. Accounts from these people are purely anecdotal and, invariably, second and third-hand. Along the lines of, “my mate said…” and “… I knew this bloke who said…”

The large numbers of police used during the strike presented logistical problems for local authorities and there are documented instances of police being billeted at TA and regular army barracks. Perhaps the rumours started there? Additionally, it was very common for police officers to remove their ID numbers from their uniforms but it seems more likely that this was to prevent violent and corrupt officers from being identified, rather than any sort of indication that such people were soldiers in disguise, as was the common assertion during the strike.

We know that police spies, agents provocateurs, Special Branch officers and MI5 agents were all used to combat the strikers and evidence has emerged to confirm such actions. But of soldiers dressing in police uniform we have yet to see even a single shred of real proof.

Following the release of cabinet papers on January 3rd, 2014, we know that Thatcher was considering using the army in line with the recommendations made in the Ridley Plan, to move coal, breach picket lines and so on, but this would have been an overt action with armed forces in their own uniforms and acting with official state approval.

Of course, the use of soldiers dressed as police officers is certainly possible and one shouldn’t, for even a second, doubt that the Tories would have baulked at such a tactic had they deemed it necessary. There is no question that the prime minister would have ruled such a move either in or out based on any legal or ethical grounds; it would have been a purely tactical and strategic decision. But, personally, I don’t think it happened.

I’d still be very interested indeed in looking at any accounts people might have on this question, so please contact me if you feel you have something interesting to share.

18 replies on “Did Thatcher Use Soldiers During the Miners’ Strike?”

It was pointed out to me that soldiers in police uniform were on picket line duty but I did not believe that the government would use troops against their own people .After the strike a year later I was in Tossa de Mar with Family and friends a few of which were quite sceptical about the Miners Strike and we were in a bar talking to a few fit looking young men who turned out to be troops serving in Germany and had driven down to Spain for a holiday and they asked where we were from as they recognised our accents from when they were stationed Ollerton during the miners strike I asked what they were doing there they explained they were stationed there during the Miners Strike 1984/5 and were kitted out in police uniforms and they asked didn’t you ever notice that there were no I.D.no’s on the epilepse They said they were deployed on picket lines and road checkpoints to stop the flying pickets .We didn’t ask for any of this information it just came out in conversation my friends who were very sceptical about the strike along with myself were quite shocked as I have stated I didn’t believe that our government would do this to their own people .So I am amazed that these facts have not been brought to light
I was also in attendance on various days at Orgreave and on one day in particular when the lorries came out and riot bombs were set of to make everyone cower down at the precise moment that the lorries came out was like a military operation but what amazed me even more was that although there was s massive police presence who marched up the road in military fashion when we got back to the M18 there was bus after bus full of personnel parked up that weren’t deployed

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the Met at the time used Green buses… It also did issue green un marked overalls to train in. These were later changed to dark blue. the use of army rumours are exactly what they are. myths and rumours. its all hear say

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I did many tours on picket lines during the strikes. Met Police. Each time we are based in Army barracks and the army provided to facilities, food etc. in all the weekly tours I never saw a single soldier anywhere near the picket line. Nor did any of my colleagues. There were plenty of police. There was no reason to have them

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I was part of the training of Police officers in riot and crowd control at Cavalry barracks in Colchester, as a serving soldier. Our unit taught tactics and played civ pop. This was at the beginning of the miners strike. I also know of three soldiers who where given leave and sent back home to mining communities to join the miners on the picket lines. There job was to give the police a reason to charge the picket line. This was after training some where near Camberley, it was seen as two weeks free leave.

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I was in the RAF at the time. A corporal working for me in an Oxygen Equipment Repair Section went to RAF Scampton on a course. He came back talking about all of the army personnel he had met in the NAAFI in police uniform trousers, who said they were going to the miner’s strike picket lines.

Another someone told me, I am sorry to say

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I was in the police and deployed to the strike in 84..
There were no Army in Police uniforms! – We were (mostly) well trained young men – we marched in formation and were drilled by ex-army RSMs – so yes, we looked ‘military’ but were were all definitely civvie police..

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Dear John C.
Thank you for your comment that the Civil Police were drilled by ex RSM’s; as I am not someone familiar with the internal Police culture of the 1980’s could you clarify the comment for me ? Were the ex RSM’s members of the Police or were they employed on a “consultant” basis ? What purpose did the RSM’s serve ? were they there as military advisors or to teach parade drill ?

Yours sincerely

John S. Rutherford

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I live in the valleys and was told that Paratroopers was involved in the miners strike in 84. This was the reason for searching and finding your site.

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I was going with the Essex Ubiversity team to the national ultimate frisbee championship at Warwick University at Easter during the miner’s strike. At some point after joining the A1 we passed a convoy of buses, the buses were full of people in green boiler suits and there were police uniforms hanging in the windows. As we passed the buses we could clearly see the people in the green suits changing into the police uniforms. I have always assumed that these were members of the army being transported in military vehicles and that for some reason they were dressed in the military fatigues for purposes of anonymising the unit they came from. I have no evidence to support this belief but there must be many other people who were on the road at the time and will have seen the same thing with better knowledge of what was happening.

Yours Faithfully

John S. Rutherford

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the Met at tge time used Green buses… It also did issue green un marked overalls to train in. These were later change to dark blue

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I was working in the Knotty Ash Pub (Liverpool) during the Miners strike when footage came on the news showing police attacking miners. While I was watching this a customer who I had never met before, I think he was visiting someone in Alder Hey hospital, told me he was a docker and had seen his son dressed as a police officer in similar footage days earlier, he went on to say that his son was in the army not the police. He approached his son about this and he admitted it was him then added the mans other son was doing the same. He told me he had wrote his two sons off and was never talking to them again. So I just checked on the internet to see if anyone else was aware and found your page.

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i an other pickets surprised a group of guys in army uniform changing into police uniform in the back of a van, they became real nasty when their photo was taken and smashed the guys camera ,later i was told of a local guy in the paratroopers who said he was on the picket line, this is popular rumour repeating itself alround the country

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Tony Bunyan in State Research / StateWatch documented the MACP (Military Aid to the Civil Power) framework which would have presumably been in place … It is said that Thatcher was particularly enamoured of the use of the use that was made of the SAS in the assault on the Iranian Embassy in 1980.

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Tony Bunyan through the State Research project documented the institution of MACP (Military Aid to the Civil Power) which was one of the formal procedures by which this was done – various accounts of the use of the SAS assault on the Iranian Embassy in 1980 record Thatcher’s approval and subsequent advocacy of military intervention …

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